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Alright,,,,,,,back to my build.

The front rotors fit. Glad someone said something(Thanks)or I would not have tried them.

Again, same drilling pattern, not that horrid sounding spiral pattern.



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I had major issues with the rear brakes that cut a groove in my rear rotor and required me to get new ones. The problem turned out to be, not the caliper that was sticking, but the clips that hold and center the pads were missing. This allowed the pad to set crooked when not braking and allowed the pad to vibrate.

Here is the damage, you can clearly see the groove that was cut by the leading edge of the pad as it sat crooked with the upper edge making contact as you drive down the road. They swore it was something got in between the pad and rotor. I swore it was the missing clips and they told me they were not really necessary. I installed new clips and all problems gone!

Now I Put these new rotors on the front and drive it less than 10 miles and the rotor is howling around corners. So i take it all apart and discover missing retaining clips on the front pads,,,,Again! Ant this is the damage. Same as the rear!!!!!!!

You may ask why the old rotors did not do this and I suspect it was due to the smooth old rotor surface allowing a smooth contact and not starting the lathing process. The new rotors with there brushed surface did not allow for smooth contact thus starting the lathing action. So several of these clips were missing from both front and rear pads???????? Them telling me they were not really needed, then not installing them, and this destroying a set of pads and rotors front and rear is bull crap.
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Here is a better shot of what I mean by the leading edge cutting into the rotor because it is allowed to set crooked without the clips.

See the how the edge matches up tho the groove

And why it is a thin 1/2" wide line.

New clips installed and problem solved.


The lesson here,,,,, is that those little spring clips that hold the brake pads in place are a REQUIRED part. <br /><br />
Modified by stupidstuff at 12:46 PM 6/30/2012

Modified by stupidstuff at 12:47 PM 6/30/2012

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So I had to rehang the exhaust system as it fell off. Is there nothing that performance options can do right the first time? I guess not as the exhaust shop found that the pipe was hitting the car and the axel and will eventually punch a hole in the pipe. Also the can is to close to the tire. It is going to cost 250 bucks to have there mess up fixed. Also I found the transmission 1.5 quarts low and leaking horribly from the tail seal???????? This is a 8 dollar and 5 minut repair and they let it go out leaking over half its fluid in 1000 miles. Also the oil in it was old, as in as old as the used tranny.

It cost me $200 to fix the brakes that were damaged by the missing clips, $250 to re-do the exhaust and $750 in towing expenses for there mistakes and lazy ass ways.
This does not even scratch the other screw-ups that cost me big during this build like the missing parts and there pathetic estimating skills.

I fully and whole heartedly want to sue this shop, but am not going to mess with it. Live and learn I guess. I retract any thing good I have ever said about them and would love to punch Eddie in the face. I spent over 8 grand to have a problem with almost everything they installed. HACK SHOP.

I will be putting together a detailed thread to destroy there online reputation.

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All sorts of fun stuff! I know you said on the last page you and the shop were good, but come on.......
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Ya the nice guy gloves come off now. I was trying to keep it polite and not to upset the PO fan boys but to hell with it. This shop sucks so much wang I am surprised they can speak without sounding like they are choking.

Eddie and Joey are HACKS, plain and simple and if anyone had a different experience then good for you. I can prove they screwed me over and could not get it right. Not even with three separate tries.

I personally have built million dollar houses, hot rods, fully machined and customized paintball guns, firearms, rot iron ornamental hand railing..................I was a custom remodel contractor for years and I have never encountered a professional shop so completely unable to get things right. Its pathetic really that these guys are still in business.
I think it is about my skin color and the fact I am not a local, if I was not that crazy white boy from the sticks I would have gotten better treatment i think. They saw me walk in with thousands in parts and drop off my car with a 5 grand deposit and thought they could run with it. They thought wrong!

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As a fellow crazy white boy from the sticks, I got your back. On the bright side, you know all the work is getting done right, albeit at your own hand.
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So today I made a ABV plate from some eighth inch flat stock. I also made a gasket from universal material. My neighbors must love the sound of a grinder at 8am,,, if they were not already working in the yard. lol This should allow me to get the extra 4-6 psi my pulley set provides and takes about 15 minutes to install. It however requires the charger to run allot more for normal driving. Hell of a difference with another 40-50 hp lol. Really fun to rip the first two gears up to 65mph.


I also pressure washed the fender wells and some of the under body. They need some touch up from an oil based rattle can. Flat black will do. Once it dries some I will tape off what does not want to be painted, then go at it.


After!



And the front



Last update for now is the front windshield seal directly from toyota is here and will be installed next week.

The old one is getting bad

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New window seal installed!

Super sweet, no more leak and the howling when driving down the highway is almost gone.

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I hate body work! Why you may ask. Well I suck at it and the one time i tried it it worked out poorly. I can do drywall so well that I almost dont need to sand. Did it for years. This bondo on the other hand is no fun at all. Maybe I should get better tools, haha. I will get it but it is a learning process.

Edit: yep I got out my 12 inch drywall trowl and I wont be using those plastic ones in open areas again. Now that I am treating it the same as drywall and using the same tools it is quite easy!

What tools I was using before. I gues they are good for contured areas but can make the larger flat areas hard.


After it just was not looking the way i wanted I got out my drywall tools and things got MUCH easier. These are the tools I am using plus some 80 grit through 330 grit sand paper.

Now the reason I am using bondo instead of having the metal work done is that the door is rusted out internally and if I find a new door I will replace it.

First coat and sand.

Second coat and sand.

Third coat and on,,,,,and on,,,,,and on.



And then you get to this point and you need to prim it to relief/block sand.

And thats it for today.

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Looks great!
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Thanks.

here is how I removed the old vinyl striping and its glue.

First step to remove those old stripes. Now this is not hard with an "eraser wheel" and a drill. But I never have the right tool handy so I looked around and came up with this instead. It worked perfectly and did not damage the paint at all.

Soft indoor roler blade wheel and a screw with washers.


Once the wheel is used up


After removal it looks like new paint where they were.



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coming together well!

could you post a shot of the rear shock's lower mount if you have one? I've been curious how it looks all together on the startlet



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Since it has an AE86 rear end and the shocks are shorter than the stock units, so the mounts were relocated up and out.


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Dude your car and mine are almost the exact same. Crazy, same wheels, color and everything. I would really like to hear how some of your suspension mods are working out. Especially sway bar and steering mods.



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Super sweet car! I am going to the local auto cross tomorrow so I will let you know how it handles. So far I have been unable to get any body role at all in my local area and i live in the Laguna Seca area so the mountains allow me to have fun a bit, but the real test will be coming into a switch back at 60+ and plowing on the brakes into the turn then exiting on the throttle. Hope it goes well but either way it will be fun to figure this wiry thing out.

I found a new passenger door and am almost ready to shoot the car.

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Ok the first Auto cross and I have a report on the suspension. It is in need of fine tuning but the performance was right where I was hoping. Unfortunately my performance was not. haha. I have a lot of learning in this short bastard. lol I was expecting it to be a little easier to handle but it is really throttle happy.

The track was not fast today and 55mph was the best I got. Several switch backs and not one real straight. It will run with the track cars once I get it figured out and add the extra boost. I was only 4 seconds off with another 40+ hp to add. O and I really need more practice. I almost suck. lol. I got spoiled with cars that made me a good driver haha.

The 275# front springs while great for DD and rally are to soft for the weight up front on an auto cross. By maybe 25 lbs. Not much though. I think i can lift the front slightly and compensate for this though. I will try 4mm lift. Like I say it only has slight under steer when hard turning and heavy braking. I think I can use the throttle to correct for it, once i get used to the throttle. I also need SS brake lines. The brakes are great but there is some slight sponginess when heavy braking. The tire size is good up front but I think something 1.5" wider in the back would be ideal. Also since I geared it for road use it is worthless for todays really close track. If I was to autox it regularly I would get a 6 speed. But I am using these events to get things adjusted. It is fun but to hard on the car. It is also to tempting to drift it. No need for any E-brake or clutching here, haha. Probably going to run the BOV plate for the extra boost and the 100 octane from laguna seca next time around..

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I am now starting to compile the parts to do a Megasquirt standalone system with 440 cc injectors and Methane/watter injection. I am also going to put a Nitrous system capable of 30, 50, and 75 shots.

I ordered a progressive injection system today that runs on the MAP sensor signal. It is fully adjustable and upgradable to a fail safe system with ECU interface in the future, however it is not really necessary to interface it unless you are going for big numbers so the stage 2 systems I got is more than adequate for under 350 bhp.

The standalone will be installed later and will cost almost $1000 just to buy the DIY components, then install and tuning so the ECU will take a while as I wont start it until i have it all. But for now I can get my octane rating up to 100+ from 91 with ease with the meth/watter injection. Since the factory ECU is JDM it was programed for 100 oct, plus the added benefits of heat absorption this will make the engine run WAY smoother under hard driving. I will wire it in with my air/water interceder, so when I turn on its pump the meth injection system will arm.

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So on the new ordered list i have, the nitrous system with purge kit, progressive water methane injection, And just ordered a set of 225/50 r13's for the rear with diamond racing 13x8 wheels. Also a set of flares.

I will use snaps for the flares so they can be removed for the normal daily driving tires. Also I aim to address the heavy front end by lowering the rear with the smaller diameter tires. This will also change the ratio on the ground as the tire size difference will be close to 33mm smaller.

The wheel and tires wont be here and installable until about the first of setp as the wheels wont arrive until then.

Then I plan to learn to drive.

water/methane injection system with trunk mount tank and a small tank incase the larger one wont mount and hide. The pump is huge, haha. Also the purge kit and NOS kit.

The tires.
Together they will combine for around 20 inches of rubber on the ground in the rear.


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So its been a while since i updated this thread and the car is for sale,,,, kinda.


Also I finally found out why i have had issues with the fuel mixture ratio and the stock ECU.

Now if you read this thread you will know I had some issues with Performance Options with staying on budget and on time. Also I got into it about them not inspecting the used harness prior to installing it. They said they cheched it and right after it burnt an ECU. They claimed to have went through the harness and guaranteed there was nothing wrong there. I get a new OEM ECU(after I found a dead short ground in the IAC wiring) and it ran but still had mixture issues. I took it back for thee third time and I was assured that the shop checked the harness several times.

So I get a megasquirt DIYPNP. I take it to grant here on 4ag for install and he finds a dead short ground in the injection wiring that caused the new ECU to almost burn up.


So PO is not capable of basic wiring diagnosis and totally lied to me almost costing me another grand.

AVOID PERFORMANCE OPTIONS LIKE THE PLAGUE. They are hacks that cant figure out simple wiring issues and they will lie to your face and you will pay.

I am now in to there mistakes and screwups for over 4 grand now and counting.

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Ive been following this build for a while and just recently saw how far you got.

All I have to say is F@ck yeah!

Good stuff man and good luck



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