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I have seen a lot of arguing back and forth about 16 valve ITB setups but I haven't seen many build threads so I figured I would make a thread about my build. I really didn't plan on creating a build thread so I don't have the most detailed pictures but I feel. Have enough to get my story across. At the start of this thread I am about 3/4 of the way done with my project. My goal is to finish within the next month or two.

I bought my car looking about like this:

The car came with a Hi-comp that ran well but was about ready for a rebuild. So....I rebuilt it. These were all the pictures I could find:



Along with rebuilding the motor I had to do a lot of other things as well so I left the rebuild pretty mild. If I remember correctly I did the following:
-mill block and head
-new stock valves with valve job
-.5 over stock hi-comp pistons
-All new bearings
-bronze valve guides
-TRD thin head gasket
-balance internals

In addition to the motor work I also got:
-Koyo rad with electric fan
-HKS timing belt and cam gears
-TRD motor mounts
-prothane bushings
-ACT clutch
-fidanza flywheel
-1piece drive shaft
-Tomei FPR

So by the end of all this I was pretty broke. Sorry again for no pics.

Over the next year I continued upgrading my car by:
-rebuilding tranny
-new suspension
-new brakes
-weir r&p with Kazz LSD
-etcetera

So now the only thing I had to really concentrate on was organizing things under the hood. Since I am a simple man, I wanted my engine bay to be as simple as possible and when I think of simple I think ITBs, manual steering, and stand alone fuel management. This may not be simple to others but please don't criticize.

So now we finally get to the whole point of the thread, my ITB setup.

First thing is first....open up my wallet and turn it upside down. Or in other words, buy parts. It took me a long time to decide what stand alone to go with. Almost everyone on this site really seems to love MS but i felt like there was too much of a learning curve and not enough support from well-known mechanics. I ultimately decided on AEM. It has great American support so i dont have to translate and seriously has like a 200 page instruction manual in well written, easy to understand english.

Here is a pic of most of the parts I figured I would need before I got started:

In case you can't tell, I got:
-crower camshafts
-280 degree intake and exhaust
-crower valve springs
-AEM EMS4 with all of their stock sensors
-silver top ITBs with T3 adapter and velocity stacks
-vacuum manifold
-AEM coil on plugs
-235cc injectors cleaned by RC Engineering (love those guys)

Next I got to the fun part: removing the ac and power steering. I hated every second of this job. Sorry I don't have pictures but I was too busy cussing up a storm. Seriously, removing the ac was the most annoying thing I have ever had to do. I originally planned to everything out carefully so I could sell it. Half way through I took out the cut of wheel and hacked everything out.

Next I took out all the junk I wouldn't need from the engine bay:


And some of the stuff I would need:

Don't laugh at my old fuel setup. It started leaking on a Sunday and I did what I could.

It was about this point that my old toolbox fell apart so I found this at Costco:

Now, with the help of a great buddy HASport, AKA Dan the Man, I got started on all the fun stuff.
Installing valve springs and camshafts and re-installing the head:




Danny boy also spruced up my valve covers for me:


Like I said, I didn't get the most detailed of pictures but the next ones show my progress after:
-Converting fuel lines to AN
-Installing new pulleys
-Installing GZE Cam angle sensor
-ITBs
-Other stuff

I had to loop my old water line at the point where it used to feed the throttle body. I found this at AutoZone:

I had to hit the junk for some pigtails that I didn't have for my injectors and TPS I found this cool pigtail with a boot for the TPS off a 1UZ:


Here is a shot of the pulleys, the alternator pulley is on back order:

I found out my TRD headers were cracked so I decided to spend way too much money on these headers. I'm sure you know what they are:



Look at these beautiful welds:

The fit really is perfect:


Never mind that Pennzoil filter
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Modified by ethergore1 at 4:01 PM 3/8/2012

Modified by ethergore1 at 7:12 AM 3/10/2012



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More to come...
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nice build man. i respect anyone who stays with the 16v 4age. Keep it up!



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what are you going to do with your old headers, andrew?



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I'm trying to sell them.
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Just out of curiosity do you ever take this thing through reche canyon?

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Very nice! I can't wait to see how this turns out.



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I remember seeing that car for sale here. Looks like it was a good buy!



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It's been at least a year or so but yes. Gotta watch for the donkeys.
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Deuce and Grant- Thanks

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Since I finally got some feedback I figured I would add some more stuff.

I got my water neck back from the machinist last night. He had to re-tap the threads for the AEM water temp sensor. AEM threads were standard and of course the rolla threads were metric. I'm glad I didn't have to weld an ugly bung. He also glass beaded the neck and, in my opinion, made the thing look new again.



The machinist also drilled out my vacuum manifold so I didn't have to worry about messing up the threads with my crappy drilling skills.

I also got the rest of my oil cooler setup in the mail on Thursday. I even paid the extra beans for the fire sleeve since its close enough to the headers.

I also want to show off this cool adapter I got from Bonaco in upland. It adapts your hardline to AN fittings. No point in running new line all the way to the tank and no point trying to figure out how to flare that thing.

Finally I got some red silicone vacuum hose to compliment my soon to be delivered red Samco heater and radiator hoses.


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I love it.
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love the way a high comp with itb's run. rev's all night. clean work



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If I may....

How much did you cut the head? Which TRD gasket? What is your static CR? Why did you choose to use on O/S exhaust gasket? Whose O/S exhaust gasket did you use?



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Not sure how much we got off the head. The coolant port was a little corroded and the farther down we went the more we risked making it sketchy. Probably sketchy anyways but I've already ran it pretty hard for about 6000 miles with no problems.

Used the thin 0.8mm gasket.

Not sure how to figure the CR. Let me know if you do.

That was my old gasket. I thought it was a FA exhaust gasket but it was Toysport who sold it to me so I could be wrong. Now I just have a stock Yota gasket. The old gasket didn't even make the 6000 miles I put on it.


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6000 miles... any dyno readouts?



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Nothing. I just ran it on all stock equipment. It really felt about the same as before the rebuild. Just a little tighter for lack of better words. I can't wait to see what I get when I'm done though.
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OST- here is a picture of the exhaust gasket after 6000 miles:



Modified by ethergore1 at 10:33 PM 3/11/2012
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Are you running with the AEM unit now? If so, who did the wiring harness?



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No. The AEM is not wired in yet. Planning on doing it myself with the help of buddies.
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Here is the newest part I ordered:

This company has great customer service and great prices.


Modified by ethergore1 at 10:16 AM 3/13/2012

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hot damn mr deep pockets! awesome build!

looking forward to progress



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Quote, originally posted by Buckethead »
hot damn mr deep pockets! awesome build!

looking forward to progress

Thanks for the compliment, I guess. I should get some more done on Sunday.

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Nice! I'm considering the aem ems-4 as well. I understand you can run the stock harness and sensors with it? I'm gonna follow your progress. I'd like to hear more about your experience.



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Sorry it's been so long since my last update. I've been busy but I've got a few things done. Mostly I've wasted more money but I guess that's part of the project.

Got my breather tank in:

I also started gathering the parts to relocate my battery to the trunk. Here is the tray:

It came kind of corroded unfortunately:

So I decided to have it powdercoated:


Here it is with the battery:

I went ahead and ordered the BMW setup to relocate my battery to the trunk:

I decided I will mount my vacuum manifold to the bottom of my splash shield:

I ended up having to get a new oil cooler since my other one was tough to mount:

My car also decided to start leaking from the brake master cylinder while it sat. I think it wanted attention so it started crying. got an Aisin.

RPM talked me into a SS Teflon coated clutch line too. I'm a sucker for SS.


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I finally got my LHD Samco heater hoses in from Options!


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Can you provide any more info on the battery?
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What would you like to know? It's an Odyssey PC 925.
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That does it, just looking into lighter weight battery for my e30. Do you ever run into any issues with starting?
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I have never had an issue starting the car. I don't think it was much less CCA than the stock battery.
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