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 Rise if the V8's in...
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kul_blu_car


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...drifting that is!

Is this where drifting is going now? Vaughn Gittin even mentioned about it's progression in drifting. Would you rock one in your corolla?

With so much parts available for the LSx V8, it has become the ideal engine to use and benchmark for drifting. More torque, smoother, and stays cooler too! Imagine going through 3-4 SR20 det motors in every season compared to using the same LSx motor after 3 seasons of drift events. Very reliable if you ask me. Also, the work you have to do to an SR20 det motor to get it up to 400 HP takes a lot of $$$ compared to purchasing an LSx motor which already has more than 400 HP stock.

The video was really interesting. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded



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Would I put one in a corolla, NO!

Would I put one in a FD and drive the living piss out of it. You bet your arse

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if i wanted to go pro, i wouldn't even use a corolla.
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I'm going to have to disagree. A 400hp SR20 is not that expensive to obtain, especially when you look at the cost of an LS and everything you need JUST to get it running and driving. A stock S14 SR at 15-18pnds is extremely fun and competitive in a corolla. I really believe that it's not power that's Lacking in corollas being successful in FD but tire size and weight. The solid axle and lack of suspension articulation is also a factor. If you think V8's = wins in FD, then you obviously have not seen Daigo Saito drive with his TOYOTA inline 6 JZ
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To be honest

I think this is GREAT

Not only is the v8 giving all the 4 cylinder guys more hope

But its true,easy,and simple,cheap and endless fun (well..Untill you blow the engine)


But i think this very cool (FOR DRIFTING ONLY)



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This is a personal opinion of mine: Aside from the big money teams of FD, I have never seen a V8 powered car driven to it's full ability or live up to it's "cheap, reliable power" claim. I know that claim offends people, but I just have never seen it happen. Everyone that I know that is V8 swapped is on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5TH!! engine. A V8 doesn't like to be bounced off redline for minutes on end with no oil cooler. After blowing up several V8's, when does it become cheaper than just spending the time to build a reliable SR or JZ or RB?

The cars are either:

A.)Built with just a LS dropped in, junk suspension and a "my buddy is a welder" rondell bar/american gladiator cage special. It is constantly breaking, blowing up motors, over heating, and for the most part out of control on the track. No time or money was spent in the suspension department or was any focus put on engine reliability. They truely are missle cars with your tin can corolla in it's sight. As long as the steering rack has insane angle they don't care that they can't link up a standard drift course without spinning out several times each run.

B.)Car is properly built. The V8 is reliable and they actually took the time to do an alignment. At this point though you have spent so much money to build it, you could have built 2 drift cars and lesser cars can still keep up with you. So unless you are sponsor backed at a professional level....how is this thing better again?

I think that a growing trend I've seen at the tracks is that as long as it has mass amounts of power on tap and near 90 degree full lock, it is a good drift car. So much time is spent on making a competitive car that they took no time to learn to drive it. I won't tandem with these cars because they are just so unpredicable. Last thing I need is 3500lbs of roaring steel heading towards me as the driver is more focused on landing a cover photo on a trendy drift blog than me infront of him.

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 Re: Rise of the V8's in... (claricAE86) » Reply  Edit


Quote, originally posted by claricAE86 »
Would I put one in a corolla, NO!

Would I put one in a FD and drive the living piss out of it. You bet your arse


A well gone through LS in a xA6x Celica.... I'm all over it...

I'm not a drifter... but it is EASY to see that power is truly secondary to balance. That isn't to say you don't need power, what it does confirm is an olde Pirelli adage... "Power is nothing without control"


As far as I know there is STILL ONLY one V8 appropriate for any rwd Corolla... a Hartley

http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562068.htm

Cliff's Notes version - SPECIFICATIONS H1V8:

75° odd fire V8
2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional)
84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional)
4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain
530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high
400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec. is available)
245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm
200 lbs engine weight
Billet nitrided steel 180° crank
4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts
Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase
Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump





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 Re: Rise of the V8's in... (oldeskewltoy) » Reply  Edit


^^^Til now, no price mentioned on the motor.^^^

I actually saw this motor a few years back. I just checked it out again and noticed that the company was sold already. Still in business though.



Fast, Reliable, Cheap. You can only choose two. Why?

Fast and Reliable = Not cheap

Reliable and Cheap = Not fast

Fast and Cheap = Not Reliable


 



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