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I already have the service manual. Ok thanks for the reply.
My current timing is not at 10* BTDC, I've retarded as my engine pinging like crazy.



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Need help. Any one has wiring diagram using 1nzfe/2nzfe COPs on 4age 20v?
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any update on this with the tacho booster? also can you clarify how you made an external tacho booster?
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hi, I've made my external tacho booster. just simply replace stock coil with a relay. Take 2 wire from coil and connect it to relay coil.

Relay will ticking and rpm are alive.



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Smart idea, replacing a coil with a small relay. I imagine it will eventually wear out and stop making a clicking noise



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Soooo in got my blacktop running on the cop's! The engine seems to rev freely all the way up to the higher rpm's!

I have both my stock ignitor and coil plugged in and attached to a metal bracket. But the bracket is not grounded to the chasis. If I bolt the bracket (with ignitor and oil attached) to the chasis, the car wont start. If its only my ignitor on the bracket (the coil lying on my carpet) the motor won't start either.

When I start the engine with the bracket on my carpet and then run a wire from the bracket to the chasis, the car turns off. Seems like I have a grounding issue?

Any ideas guys?



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Try separating your coil from the bracket and bolt the bracket down to the chassis with the igniter, ground the coil somewhere else on the chassis.

Now as for my problem, not so much a problem as curious to what it means...
Basically when the stock coil fires (then grounds to chassis) the original grounding point that goes through the igniter is what gives the igniter the igf signal which it then sends to the tach ecu and tach right?

So what I'm not understanding is, I'm using d17a coil packs and they work without a problem, perfectly and fit with no modification what so ever.
Switched to 1zz, minor modification but works none the less
Switched to 1nz, more modification but fits beautifully under the valley cover

Alright so they ALL work fine... But while running the 1nz, at idle my tach needle would bounce all around the place. As soon as I rev the engine it goes back to where it's suppose to. My idle isn't changing but the tach is just bouncing.

The tach almost has nothing to do with the cop anymore from what I understand, so what would cause this? I remember reading someone else having the same issue but I can't seem to find it again

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signal noise, try a RC filter.
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Ahh that's kinda simple, would hooking up an rf suppressor to my igniter do the trick or is the signal noise coming from the 1nz coil packs themselves
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Quote, originally posted by VitriumGTS »
Smart idea, replacing a coil with a small relay. I imagine it will eventually wear
out and stop making a clicking noise

The moving parts of the relay are not required. You can remove them, or secure
them with a zip tie, to get rid of the buzzing noise.

Cheers... jondee86



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on tacho signal line/wire.
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For anyone using D17 Honda COP's, the wiring order from left to right when looking at the COP from the top with the plug facing you is as follows:

Left pin - Signal
Center Pin - Ground
Right pin - Power



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How do yo check ignition timing if your running COPs, with the stock setup we clip the timing light on the #1 spark plug wire, how on cops?

Here the first attempt video, revving up and down running like ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ASYk7_GBo



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Jehuty - Cut an old spark plug wire and stick the cut end in your COP and put the other end on the plug. Hook your timing light up to the plug wire and time it that way. make sure your connections are solid.



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^ yup, on p.19 theres this pic...
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Picture from balmos thread.





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Try if the timing light picks up a signal by clipping the pickup directly over the COP harness. It worked for me and some others so no need for the spark plug wire extension.
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Hi
Cant we get G1 and G2 signals from the distributor and use a signal booster and batch fire the COP on a 4AGE20?

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Hi
Cant we get G1 and G2 signals from the distributor and use a signal booster and batch fire the COP on a 4AGE20?

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laval quebec

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anyone can provide me the 1nzfe COP pinout with wires colors !? thanks !!!
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wire colours change, instead use what's on my site:

http://s-86.com/s-coilpacks.html

or buy the latest 86garage magazine



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Hello all, I'm new to this forum.
I wanna ask can anyone provide or advice me where can i find those Ultra's MDI Direct Ignition System digital signal sensor (from hall effect shutter)? ASAP !!!
Thank you for helping....

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laval quebec

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i have a little problem with my blacktop running on COP !! my engine have like a fuel cut at around 5000 rpm ...

my oem igniter is not pluged ..
i have a os sensor check engine

can it be cause by one of this ? or a faulty vvti switch ?

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it can be caused by your OEM ignitor not being plugged in!



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i can plug the ignitor but if i ground it the car stall ...
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what do you mean ground it...bolt it to the engine bay? It grounds that way.
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the ignitor is grounded by the casing .... and if i bolt the ignittor to the car the engine stall ....
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sounds like a wiring fault to me



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yea that's pretty odd. mine wouldn't run at all without that original (at least one like it) coil plugged in and zapping like crazy!
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cannot be cause by the 02 sensor check engine ? the ecu make the fuel cut at 5000rpm for protection ..??
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well you could check your fault codes but once you fix your wiring fault



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