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jjdye1
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is the ae86 injen short ram intake have a carb EO# or in other words street legal/carb exempt??? like the K&N intake!!!


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nope, "carb pending" forever most likely...
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are there any other CARB legal intakes out there for the 4A-GE? and what are the comparisons between them?
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i laugh that you guys have to worrie about such peddy stuff.
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are there any other CARB legal intakes out there for the 4A-GE? and what are the comparisons between them?

i don't believe there are any carb legal modifications for 4age engines except the k&n thing...and yes, things like this are quite petty...

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Its a trade. We deal with CARB stuff, you have to live in Minnesota.
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Its a trade. We deal with CARB stuff, you have to live in Minnesota.

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funny



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Its a trade. We deal with CARB stuff, you have to live in Minnesota.

hahahahahaha boo-ya!

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yea well if u overhaul ur engine the cops wouldnt noe if ur running on a new overhauled engine...rite? yea its kinda gay that the injen short ram intake is carb pending!!! oh well guess ill be sticking to the K&N intake!!! does anyone noe how much horsepower it gains???
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most likely 5-10hp, might say on their website



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haha... oh well cali got soo much **** its ridiculous but its good.... still lovin it



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yea well if u overhaul ur engine the cops wouldnt noe if ur running on a new overhauled engine...rite? yea its kinda gay that the injen short ram intake is carb pending!!! oh well guess ill be sticking to the K&N intake!!! does anyone noe how much horsepower it gains???

thats true they wont be able to see the internals of your engine if you build them. however, if you are looking to keep it street legal, the next time you smog it, the testing equipment will more than likely be able to detect the difference in the engine and its emissions, timing, and performance. so, unless you somehow magically are able to keep it within legal limits, you will automatically fail the test and it will no longer be "legal". that is, unless you just meant a OEM spec rebuild, and not a performance build. then, yes, it will be fine.

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well does any brand actually have "smog legal" camshafts that still give u performance.??
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Just for a custom one and swap out when you need to smog.



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not even hks can work!???
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as far as i know, there is no company anywhere that makes a smog legal (at least in california) aftermarket camshaft made for any car after 1975.
yes, there is the option of swapping out cams every time you have to smog it, but that is a pain in the @r$e, and also if you have flashed your ECU to get max performance out of your cam, you will have to re-flash it back to OEM specs or the engine will probably run like poop.
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I don't think you fully understand what's going on here.

Camshafts change the amount of time and distance that the valves open and close for the purpose of combustion. This in turn modifies the factory selection of opening and closing for the sake of performance, which usually means increased emissions. Some people might say that "these cams pass smog" because of the mild alterations they make to said factory specs. In turn, there's the possibility that they may pass the emissions tester, as a visual inspection is impossible since the tech can't see what's inside the engine. This is the way people pass smog with cams (for a 4AG, that's generally a 256 and possibly a 264 cam setup with mild lift).

No other cam exists in the world other than Skunk2's B-series cams that actually carries CARB certification. It seems redundant, but what it does is sell cams to people who don't have an understanding of why or why cams don't pass emissions. The CARB certification on their cams baisically says, in layman's terms, "these cams can pass smog". They paid to have this advertising advantage, when in reality many of the other cam manufacturers will have camshafts that will probably pass emissions testing.

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No other cam exists in the world other than Skunk2's B-series cams that actually carries CARB certification. It seems redundant, but what it does is sell cams to people who don't have an understanding of why or why cams don't pass emissions. The CARB certification on their cams baisically says, in layman's terms, "these cams can pass smog". They paid to have this advertising advantage, when in reality many of the other cam manufacturers will have camshafts that will probably pass emissions testing.

oh really? i didnt even know they had cert for CARB EO approval. i take it you arent a huge fan of skunk 2 and/or the B-series cams.

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On the contrary, I think Skunk2 is almost the equivalent here to HKS in Japan. They make extremely high quality parts with tons of R&D. They have cars that have proven time and time again that Skunk2 parts make you go fast, period. There are legends of the import tuning scene on staff, including but not limited to Dr. Charles and Tony Shagday. If anything, its a shame they don't make AE86 parts. I actually applied and got a job there but turned it down for where I work now.

I'm just saying that having to jump through the CARB hoops just to sell a part, sucks.

Oh, and I also believe that in almost every way, the Honda B-series engine is one of the greatest things to happen for automobiles. Why then did I go AE86 you ask? Well nothing B series is rear wheel drive.

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I got a story for you about CARB how big of a joke it is....I once smogged a 5.0L fox body mustang.

the customer drove it up and I heard the distinct chub chub chub of an engine that most definitely had been modified.

i'm not a hardass when it comes to smogging. I dont give a damn if you swap out the internals or make the muffler loud. I only care if you got some ghetto home made intake or try to pull a fast one over me by removing stuff like EGR or evap canister. So long as things check out visually and are present where they are supposed to be, i'll smog it. How am I gonna know if you got cams or not.....open up the engine?

So the mustang guy was honest with me and said the engine was modified and I told him if theres anything else I should know. He also told me he changed out the final gear to something shorter.

I was in for a surprise. I was test running it on the dyno and the damn thing SURGED at part throttle, making it REALLY diffificult to get into that 15mph @ under 3K rpm limit. I only had a small window to keep the computer happy and after the 2nd attempt, I asked if I can yank the ebrake a few clicks to slow down the driven wheels to get it within that rpm window. He said it was alright.

I was finally able to get it within that rpm limit and 30 seconds passed when it switched to the 25mph test, which passed in 25 seconds.

Opened up the hood to see that awesome 5.0L engine I'm familar with and saw all the emissions equipment and solenoids. Everything looked good and there weren't any after market parts visible, but it WAS modified.

The results came in and the freaking engine STILL blew zeros, almost on par with modern cars limits.

If that gentleman was able to modify his engine and tune it to pass smog, whats keeping the rest of us from doing the same? How are smog techs supposed to tell the difference? According to the current laws, only carb certified parts are allowed. ??? man

i just finished smogging a v8 that passes smog perfectly and because some guy in a suit in sacramento tells me that if an engine is modified and does not have a sticker for that part, I have to either FAIL an otherwise uber clean car or refuse to smog it.

Also in the books, a disconnected vacuum hose is fails immediately. Of course, it doesn't say which....





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Quote, originally posted by chohdog »
On the contrary, I think Skunk2 is almost the equivalent here to HKS in Japan. They make extremely high quality parts with tons of R&D. They have cars that have proven time and time again that Skunk2 parts make you go fast, period. There are legends of the import tuning scene on staff, including but not limited to Dr. Charles and Tony Shagday. If anything, its a shame they don't make AE86 parts. I actually applied and got a job there but turned it down for where I work now.

I'm just saying that having to jump through the CARB hoops just to sell a part, sucks.

Oh, and I also believe that in almost every way, the Honda B-series engine is one of the greatest things to happen for automobiles. Why then did I go AE86 you ask? Well nothing B series is rear wheel drive.


so then, cam-wise, do you have any suggestions for a 4A-GE (ie. manufacturer, and preferrably in a cam size that possibly could pass smog)?
on the CARB part, i definitely feel you there. here where i work, we are starting to have to jump through all of their hoops as well. its a nightmare wrapped in a horror story, with an astronomical price tag thrown on for near impossibility.
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oh really, you do smogs?
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I dont know about Cali but here in AZ its easy as hell to pass smog. They dont care whats in your engine bay as long as the emissions equipment is there and you blow clean numbers. Sometimes they dont even care about the emissions parts. I had a friend put down 640AWHP on his first gen eclipse and he passed with flying colors and had his new tags that day. He did have the person that tuned that car do a second tune that was a little more conservative and safe for passing smog but still over 550AWHP.



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I dont know about Cali but here in AZ its easy as hell to pass smog.

california has some of (if not THE) strictest emissions laws in the world.
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Damn right, and with the high cost of living I refuse to live there. I got offered a job making about $40k starting, in San Diego and I just laughed at the guy



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yep, i make about that right now, and it doesnt go as far as people think it does.
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Yeah a lot of people have no idea what the cost of living is there. Its definitely not as bad here in AZ but it keeps rising thanks to our stupid taxes. We got a tax on our stupid light-rail "bus" they decided to build even after a poll showed only 1% of people would use it. Then they decide to redo all the freeways since they didnt make them big enough the first time. Now im getting taxed an extra $.60 on cigarettes for childrens education since our schools suck so bad, not thinking that maybe the schools suck because they only pay the teachers 25-30k a year to teach the "Future leaders of America". My cousin is a teacher in Chicago and thought it was retarded how little they got paid here.



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yea its so gay having these "tight" emission laws!!!
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oh really, you do smogs?

Used to. After little over a year of doing it day in and day out (high traffic smog place), it wore me out mentally and physically so i decided to go back to college, while i was still young

but i still know alot about how it system works so feel free to pick my brain.





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