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 DIY Parts List: Full Flow Aftermarket Oil Cooler9:32 PM 8/2/2010 Reply  Edit

The following is the parts required to build your very own full-flow aftermarket oil
cooler. Some of you may be saying though: "Well I have a GTS OEM oil cooler, do
I need this and why?"

From my own findings:

For daily driving or the occasional weekend warrior, I find that no oil cooler or just
running the stock GTS cooler will be just fine. Those of you that auto-cross or grip
drive may want to upgrade, but it may not be necessary depending on how long
your run sessions are. Same goes for you occasional drifters. I HIGHLY
recommend this upgrade to any of you that plan on doing 15+ min continuous run
sessions. The oil temps get up there. I blew my first 20v engine doing 45 minute
straight, non-stop drift sessions. Coolant temps were fine, but the engine oil just
couldn't hold up.

The OEM GTS unit is not a full-flow oil cooler. It has a pressure-sensitive check
valve that stops flow at low oil pressure/low rpm and allows flow at high oil
pressure/high rpm. The OEM GTS oil cooler only allows oil to flow through it as
engine rpm increases. At idle there is little flow if any. It does not work all the time.

This oil cooler setup that I am running is a MOCAL setup using a thermostatic
adapter plate. The sandwich plate contains a thermostat that restricts flow to the oil
cooler until the engine is up to the proper temperature, allowing the engine to warm
up properly and reducing premature wear on the engine.

Enough ranting.....

Stuffs you needs
-13 row MOCAL oil cooler w/ -8AN fittings (part number MOC-13208)
-MOCAL adapter plate (part number MOC-SP1T)
- -8AN straight swivel fittings, FOUR NEEDED (part number AER-FCM1013)
- 1/2" BSP to -8AN fittings, TWO NEEDED (part number MOC-2BM808A )
- 7 feet of stainless -8AN hose (part number AER-FBA0800)

Everything you need can be purchased through RacerPartWholesale--->
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WHEN ASSEMBLING THESE PARTS USE LIQUID GASKET SEALANT ON THE
THREADS DO NOT USE PIPE THREAD TAPE SH!T. I recommend going to your
local Honda dealer and picking up a tube of Hondabond. Hondabond is legit to use
on coolant, engine oil, trannies, rear ends, your girlfriend, leaky Arby's cups, etc.
It's amazing stuff. The tape style thread sealer is too tough on the aluminum
components. It will mess up the threads and/or crack the aluminum. Ask me how
I know


PROPER HOSE ROUTING IS IMPORTANT!!!! LOOK!!!!

Bottom fitting to top of cooler, top fitting to bottom of cooler.

Here are some old photos of my oil cooler setup. No. The baller foglight brackets
are not for sale and are long gone. Sorry. I have not tried this setup on a
powersteering equiped corolla yet. You should only have to change out two of the
four required straight swivel -8AN fitting for 90-degree -8AN swivel fittings instead.
I have not tried this though. Don't yell at me if it doesn't fit your PS/AC 4AGE.


PROPER OIL COOLER MOUNTING IS IMPORTANT AS WELL!!!!!!!
You need to mount the oil cooler in such a fashion that if a bubble were trapped
in it, the bubble could escape upwards.

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 Re: DIY Parts List: Full Flow Aftermarket Oil Cooler (HASportAE86) »12:20 AM 8/3/2010 Reply  Edit

^^^Very nice writeup man!^^^


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  »8:07 AM 8/4/2010 Reply  Edit

cool


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  »12:22 AM 8/5/2010 Reply  Edit

Thanks Dan for the part numbers and for ANOTHER great write-up. Great asset to the community!!


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  »1:06 PM 2/2/2011 Reply  Edit

Anybody have the original write-up as it has disappeared? lol
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 Re: (jballa1036) »4:08 PM 2/2/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by jballa1036 »
Anybody have the original write-up as it has disappeared? lol

I got the parts list at my house. Will edit tonight when I get home.


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 Re: (HASportAE86) »2:54 PM 2/3/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by HASportAE86 »

I got the parts list at my house. Will edit tonight when I get home.




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 Re: (HASportAE86) »7:56 AM 2/4/2011 Reply  Edit

Thanks man I greatly appreciate it!!
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  »8:58 PM 2/13/2011 Reply  Edit

can u please link me to these fittings i cant find it on the site.
1/2 to -8AN fittings, TWO NEEDED (part number AER-FCM2008)



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 Re: (87Coupe_de_Ville) »9:30 PM 2/13/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by 87Coupe_de_Ville »
can u please link me to these fittings i cant find it on the site.
1/2 to -8AN fittings, TWO NEEDED (part number AER-FCM2008)

Go to http://www.google.com and put in the part number. There are A LOT of distributors for Aeroquip parts.

Awesome DIY Hasport. Ive been saving up to piece together a setup for my 20V and this has been very helpful.


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 Re: DIY Parts List: Full Flow Aftermarket Oil Cooler (HASportAE86) »9:36 PM 3/15/2011 Reply  Edit

I just did my oil cooler, god speed oil cooler relocation kit, anyway, id never touched a car in my life, put the kit together, mounted everything, then what happens, oil started drizzling out of the threads, oops forgot 2 seal'em, a pain just redoing the lines, i used some of that high tempeture tape, and fitted an O-rind 2 make sure, this SHiiit wasnt going 2 leak ever again, ran the car just testing it out for a couple months not DD or tracking the car, my oil line blows out from the A/N fitting oil everywhere long story short, the tape does work, but probly not as well as thread sealer lol, many mistakes where made during my project, also i would recomend using the same stuff on your brake lines i had tha sutff leak everywhere...nice write up


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 Re: DIY Parts List: Full Flow Aftermarket Oil Cooler (shermayn jonson) »12:26 PM 4/22/2011 Reply  Edit

Excellent! Spot on! Selection of Mocal adaptor is awesome!

not to take away from Mr.D's post, I ran the lines similar to oem way so I added some line separator too

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop...ators

In addition, because my line hanged down a bit close to the ground, I added these to the hose to protect and to also keep it protected from my headers...

flameguard...

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good stuff Mr. D! thank you




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  »1:45 AM 4/23/2011 Reply  Edit

can anyone verify if this setrab oil cooler core http://www.racerpartswholesale...lers2 (SET-A13F22-8) will work in place of the mocal core?


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  »3:40 AM 4/23/2011 Reply  Edit

great thread, thanks!


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 Re: (87Coupe_de_Ville) »8:01 AM 4/23/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by 87Coupe_de_Ville »
can anyone verify if this setrab oil cooler core http://www.racerpartswholesale...lers2 (SET-A13F22-8) will work in place of the mocal core?

yes. Just be sure to get the -8AN size version


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 Re: DIY Parts List: Full Flow Aftermarket Oil Cooler (HASportAE86) »5:47 PM 5/22/2011 Reply  Edit

Very nice thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  »5:07 AM 7/5/2011 Reply  Edit

I have a full hydraulic shop at work so all I need is the adapter plate and cooler. Great write up and this will be one of my first longevity mods while I plan my build... Im gonna keep her running until I accumulate enough parts to warrant the rebuild...
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 Re: (blkside) »7:10 AM 7/21/2011 Reply  Edit

The kit I'm working with comes with -10AN fittings. Is there an advantage to using the smaller -8 or larger -10? I am at least familiar with the physics, larger diameter means lower pressure with a greater flow capacity, right? Will oil pressure be insufficient, or will the larger hoses just be a low pressure zone and pressure will go back up when it hits the smaller channels in the block?


In short, -10AN fittings cool?

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 Re: (Eric'sFreeAE86) »12:24 PM 7/21/2011 Reply  Edit

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In short, -10AN fittings cool?

yes -10 can be used, but fitting the -8 is easier


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  »7:34 AM 8/3/2011 Reply  Edit

pardon me if this might seem to you as a noobie question but..

why did you use 13 row instead of, say something like 19 row oil cooler.




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 Re: (redking) »2:20 PM 8/3/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by redking »
pardon me if this might seem to you as a noobie question but..

why did you use 13 row instead of, say something like 19 row oil cooler.

personal preference, 19row is fine too.


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 Re: (HASportAE86) »4:16 PM 8/3/2011 Reply  Edit

so basically a 13 row and 19 row will get the job done regardless of the amount of driving done or engine mods?


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 Re: (redking) »8:32 PM 10/23/2011 Reply  Edit

QUick newbie question..

What did you use to cap off where the stock lines come out of the Oil Pan, and Under the Oil Filter?


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 Re: (ToeKnee805) »9:15 AM 10/24/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by ToeKnee805 »
QUick newbie question..

What did you use to cap off where the stock lines come out of the Oil Pan, and Under the Oil Filter?

20v's dont have dat.

I know for the oil pan you can just use another drain plug w/ crush washer, for the OEM sandwich plate I would have to look at it again, been a long time since I've played w/ 16v lol


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 Re: (ToeKnee805) »12:27 PM 10/24/2011 Reply  Edit

Quote, originally posted by ToeKnee805 »
QUick newbie question..

What did you use to cap off where the stock lines come out of the Oil Pan, and Under the Oil Filter?


Dan (HASport86) has covered the pan (pardon the pun of sorts ) Concerning the adapter, if you use the Mocal T-Stat version, you remove the original adapter completely and that removes the other fitting


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 Re: (oldeskewltoy) »2:55 PM 10/24/2011 Reply  Edit

OST with the assist


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 Re: (HASportAE86) »9:54 PM 10/26/2011 Reply  Edit

Spank you guys very much!

Great writeup by the way


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  »6:15 PM 3/13/2012 Reply  Edit

GREAT WRITE UP! 10+...im definitely going to do this.. but any suggestions on how to make that sick ass mount for the oil cooler HASportAE86?
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  »6:43 PM 3/13/2012 Reply  Edit

Okay I have all these parts ready to go. I have one question. If I were to want to install oil temp/press gauges what would be the best way to do that since the mocal t-plate does not have fittings to do so? Any one that can help?


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 Re: (87Coupe_de_Ville) »3:49 PM 3/14/2012 Reply  Edit

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Okay I have all these parts ready to go. I have one question. If I were to want to install oil temp/press gauges what would be the best way to do that since the mocal t-plate does not have fittings to do so? Any one that can help?

use the stock oil pressure port on the exhaust side of the block, where the oem sensor used to go


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