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Sam_Q
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Cooling Kit 2 with heater use:    
Bypass plate with heater outlet + side block off plate + SQ Outlet + T50 spacer plate Price: $235 + shipping
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Sam_Q
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ok now it's up to date I might as well mention that custom orders are still welcome and as are questions about my products.I stand by what my buisness sells
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Got my kit. Great quality & fast shipping.
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Deuce Cam
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Sam_Q - have you considered making an adapter to run the 16 valve upper water neck on the 20v head? It would be an awesome piece for people wanting to run the 16v water pump on a 20v.
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Sam_Q
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yes I have but didn't know how much of a market there was for itwhat's your thoughts on it? I have one of those laying around so I am guessing I could get an adapter made in a very short amount of time.
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Email'dGhost
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You may be right.To me it seems appealing to run 16v accessories, at least the water pump/thermostat, on 20v in the US simply due to part(s) availability. The only thing is that nobody seems to really know how running 16v water setup on a 20v affects the engine, considering the flow is basically reversed when comparing both configurations. It may just be a matter of relocating the coolant temp. sensor to compensate.
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Sam_Q
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well I am going to take a chance, I have measured it up and I will have some adapters shortly. The bypass outlet between the pump and outlet are way off though and will need an S-shape hose to make it work. The other catch is you can't run the vacuum lines under the throttles.I do know about what happens with the cooling, that channel is there to route the water to the front of the engine to avoid the external water pipe that the 16V had. You see the 16V was designed to be a rear wheel drive engine and when they converted it to FWD they had to run a pipe to come off the head and they also needed the external thermostat. So with the updated engine model (20V) the fixed all that. Only one channel is changed in cooling and it doesn't have any active cooling effect on the engine at all. The water flow from the block to the head is identical. Some people have said that it makes the intake ports cooler and that's what it's there for however with the low temperature differential, only 40mm of intake port and combined with the headsoak from the other side of the head pretty much nullifies this.
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Deuce Cam
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I assume the 16v water neck gets in the way of the vacuum lines?| Quote » | | The bypass outlet between the pump and outlet are way off though and will need an S-shape hose to make it work. |
Is the bypass outlet the one for the heater/thermostat on the 16v pump? I'm assuming you're talking about the external hardline for the heater coming off the 16v pump.
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Sam_Q
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yes it completely interferes with the lines there. Luckily it's easy to run without them if you know what your doing.I mean the hard line between the top outlet and the top of the pump, to make that work it needs to have a wonky rubber line instead
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Deuce Cam
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Is this irrelevant if one isn't running a heater/lines? I'm having a hard time picturing what you're describing. You can pm me if you want.
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Sam_Q
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the adapter will be picked up tomorrow and then I will do the machining, hows that for a turn-around time?I will show a photo on here and explain it with arrows
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| Quote, originally posted by Sam_Q » |
I will show a photo on here and explain it with arrows |
Bump for you. Whenever I pull my engine I plan on purchasing your kit.
I like the arrows idea  This board is world wide, and even from coast to coast of the USA people use different terms. I have loved reading this thread from the beginning because you actually EXPLAIN things and show pics of actual products both on and off the car.
Why do noobs call their hatch a HATCHI, but no one calls their coupe a COUCHI?
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Sam_Q
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thanks, your the first person to make a comment about this. I try and make things simple for everyone and hence why I try and post dual standard measurments. I have lately however been disheartened because everyone else around my business seems to be off-loading parts to people that need mods to fit and they get no support for it. I see tech threads for help on parts and these companies still have good reputations. I wish people would stand up for this because it seems like all the effort we go to here to make everything fit exactly right is un-rewarded. Anyway enough of my rant, next update will be about a new outlet and some new trumpets for both 20v throttles
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Sam_Q
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well as promised:
and the red line showing how the bypass should be connected if it is to be used: 
So the option is either an S bent rubber hose or two 90 degree bends with a short section of hose in-between. Problem is apart from hooking this up is the original vacuum lines have clearance issues so they can't be in place on the end. If anyone wants one of these their $50 for the adapter alone
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Sam_Q
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also I need to mention I finished my first new dizzy cover today, it it's 5mm shorter than my nearest competitor which is a massive difference. I had to do some extra machining to make that work but the end result is really effective. I will make something like my final version this coming week.
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how about drilling out where the sensor is so you can possibly use a L shaped tube or hose and plugging the bottom all together, i believe theres plenty of temp sensors on the back of the head correct?
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| Re: (gaijin_rokurunner) » | 5:49 AM 8/20/2011 |
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that's a brilliant idea! we don't need that sensor because it's in the bypass plate and I could potentially even make a screw in adapter for people to wind in. I will play with it this coming week when I have a moment. I am working on some interesting stuff right now: - trumpets/velocity stacks that actually fit right unlike others on the market - Nissan GTiR air box to 20V throttle adapter plate - my new low profile dizzy covers - 16V dizzy covers - exhaust side alternator mounts - new and light weight 4a/7a alternators also I might as well break thenews here I am planning on getting into 3sge beams conversions, possible products such as: - quad throttle adapter
- engine and gearbox mounts
- new weldable bellhousing sheet metal and so on, just concepts for now but it's a definate that I am aiming for the quad throttle adapter to be available within 6 months.
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Email'd! I can send another email about the cooling option 1 if needed.Ghost
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im interested in the gtir adapter plate. lmk how that one turns out 
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the GTiR adapter plates have been on the shelf here for a few weeks now. I have 4 here for silvertop and 3 are accounted for and I am just waiting for the plenums.Pics: 
and tested on my own car: 
Blacktop plates on the way as well.
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gaijin_rokurunner
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Nice plenum setup with some small stacks like pass uses these should make some good hp gains. What's the prices look like for blacktop setup?
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| Re: (gaijin_rokurunner) » | 5:55 AM 9/21/2011 |
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I supply all sorts of stacks but no, no stacks here. This is made with radii inlets for proper flow already so it's made to run by itselfThese are $240 for either of the two types the base plate and bolts. supply your own airbox. This is really for the right hand drive guys, I am working on something simpler, cheaper and I am guessing better performing for the right hand drive cars: http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=97938
Modified by Sam_Q at 9:40 AM 9/22/2011
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Is the plenum sufficient for n/a setup in regards to volume of air it can hold, the GTIR is turbo correct and werent they Nissans rally car so they used a smaller intake for more torque with no worries because the turbo was pushing large amount of air into the engine...but for n/a setups I believe it requires a little larger plenum. I'm not sure so I ask you the expert? Any chance of making a none tapered setup for small stacks like the toms plenum used or the pass trumpets
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I don't know how I missed the 16v upper water neck adapter you posted above until now, looks nice. I've noticed that people who run this type of setup (16v flow w/ water pump backing plate/thermostat) often just weld that bypass shut. What are the cons of doing that?
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| Re: (gaijin_rokurunner) » | 2:47 PM 9/21/2011 |
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Sure I can offer something with any radii, less machining after all.I can offer 50mm for blacktop and 43mm for silvertop. I could even offer spacers to increase the volume. I have been told the volume is about 2.4L, while I am far from an expert I have read that for a plenum the minimum is about the same as the engine displacement- 1.6L. However how correct this is I don't know. Deuce: the temperature might fluctuate a bit during warm up. I could however off a thermostat with an internal bleed to get around this a bit. I am not offering this right now though because I would want to design one that fits under the vacuum lines for the throttles and right now all attention is being diverted to dizzy cap relocation kits.
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Great pieces indeed! Well done Sam and I'm here to subscribe your cooling system.
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probably a noob question, but how does the bottom outlet for the radiator connect to the block? i only see a connection for the top outlet but not the bottomthanks!
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Sam_Q
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thanks kouki1986man0lantern: you go from the radiator straight to the back of the 20v water pump, simple. If you go for the heater option you use the original hose, fit the included adapter and then just use a 90 degree bend. Time to get some new photos
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i've read your article on the cooling system... so would i have to get another water pump or can the stock one work?
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