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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 6:41 AM 1/21/2011 |
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anyone ?
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 10:21 AM 1/21/2011 |
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Hello,You'll want to look at your harness connectors vs. the N76 image. Be sure all the big / small metal terminals are in the same places. I think the issue with the 20V connector is one of the smaller pin count connectors (either the 16 or 22 pin) uses all fat pins, where the N76 connector has all small pins. You should be OK for the GZE CAS. I'm running one right now on my N/A 16V and firing a wasted spark coil pack directly. If you do have noise (which I don't think you will), there is also an LM1815 VR conditioner on the main board. Run whichever signal (24 tooth or 1 tooth) is having the issues (viewed in composite logger) through the LM1815 circuit. I don't have any personal experience with the GZE coils. I think we may have some here at the shop that I can test. If we do, I will put the oscilloscope on them and find the proper dwell for you. -Russ
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 3:38 PM 1/22/2011 |
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Thank you Russ, I would appreciate that!
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 11:57 PM 1/24/2011 |
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I looked at the pins on my ECU. It seems that all connectors and pins are OK with the picture!
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 10:51 AM 1/25/2011 |
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I can't find the coils we have here. I know they're somewhere. I'll have to ask a few of the other guys if they know where they went.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 6:18 AM 11/27/2011 |
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Usually I use 2 BIP373 ignition modules that directly controls coils, but now I wonder if I can make the MS directly control the stock GZE igniter. This will prevent me from doing any wiring, just plug the DIYPNP in place of the stock ECU and go!Where can I find some doc on how the stock ECU manage the igniter (voltage etc...) on this engine ? Thanks
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 12:27 PM 12/6/2011 |
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Yep, the multiplexing igniter has recently received MS2Extra support. Be sure you're using the latest MS2Extra release firmware. Choose "toothed wheel" from your input menu and setup the toothed wheels appropriately. Next from your "more ignition" menu you'll want to turn "Toyota DLI" to "on".
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 4:40 PM 12/24/2011 |
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i would like to make an adapter harness for my 20 valve ST so my question is where do i get the plugs that are pictured with pins?
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Mikealike) » | 3:50 AM 12/27/2011 |
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Here's the break-out-box with the connector pictured above: http://www.diyautotune.com/cat....html *** Look and be sure it's the right connector. Be sure all the large and small pins are in the same places too.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 11:50 AM 3/12/2012 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Russ » | | Yep, the multiplexing igniter has recently received MS2Extra support. Be sure you're using the latest MS2Extra release firmware. Choose "toothed wheel" from your input menu and setup the toothed wheels appropriately. Next from your "more ignition" menu you'll want to turn "Toyota DLI" to "on". |
Thank you very much for this info. What about the ISCV ? Do you know what kind of Idle controler we have on the AE101 GZE ? PWM valve ? Stepper motor ? Thanks I have my DIYPNP at home but not assembled yet...
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 12:57 PM 3/12/2012 |
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How many wires does your idle valve have? I haven't seen a stepper on a Toyota in a while, but I'm guessing yours has a 3-wire PWM.The two recent DIYPNP main board revisions (1.5 and 1.5B) have the circuitry included to build the 3-wire PWM valve driver. http://www.diyautotune.com/diy...ntrol
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 5:46 AM 3/13/2012 |
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Ok, I think I've got the last revision board as I ordered it in December.Will check the ISCV plug on the car, but according to these wiring diagrams, there are no electric wire for the ISCV...
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 3:49 AM 3/14/2012 |
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Your idle valve terminals would be RSO and RSC. Rotary solenoid open and Rotary solenoid close. So it's a 3-wire idle valve. There will be a 12V wire to the valve, and the ECU pulses ground to both the open and close terminals. If it needs to open the valve it pulses RSO more and RSC less.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 8:16 AM 3/14/2012 |
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Ok good to know, so I think I will have no wiring to do at all and the install will be straight forward after the MS assembly.Hope I will be able to begin the assembly next week. Thanks
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 9:17 AM 3/17/2012 |
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Russ Do we connect the Spark 1 to IGt and Spark 2 to IGd? What happens to the multiplex igniters IGf signal? On running the 3wire idle valve. Do you need a seperate board to convert the MS2 V3.57 Fidle output to RSO and RSC that the IACV needs? Thanks george
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (knucklesson) » | 5:01 AM 3/19/2012 |
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What's up man?? It's been a minute since I've heard from you. How's everything?Correct, IGT is ignition output 1 and IGD is ignition output 2. The MS won't use the IGF ignition confirmation signal. To run a 3-wire from a 3.57 main board ECU you can either build this circuit 
or you can ground the RSC wire of the valve through a high wattage resistor, something like a 50 watt 50 Ohm. This will give a constant closed pull on the valve and it would then operate like a 2-wire PWM valve.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 5:40 AM 3/19/2012 |
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Thanks Russ. I took some time away from the aw11. Can I drop the 3.57 off to you guys and have you build this circuit on a daugter board inside the case? I had a hard time with the idle control when I tried it with the resister grounding one leg closed.george
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (knucklesson) » | 6:44 AM 3/19/2012 |
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If I were me, I'd build this outside the ECU in a project box since the 3.57 doesn't have the proto expansion area like the 3.0 board. I am picturing something like a radio shack bread board to build the 3-wire idle circuit on, a project box enclosure, and whatever the best connector may be for the 5 wires. It should be pretty small, maybe a credit card sized box that's around 1/2 to 1 inch thick.if you're free one day to pop up here for lunch or even just swing by the shop we can go chat about the best way to take care of your idle.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 7:33 AM 3/19/2012 |
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Thanks. I'm not good at soldering up circuits (not good is an understatement)...that's why I have a 3.57 right . How does you circuit compare to the glengarage board? http://www.glensgarage.com/3wi...c.pdf
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (knucklesson) » | 8:21 AM 3/19/2012 |
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It's laid out a little different but they should work identical.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 11:16 AM 4/1/2012 |
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What dwell type would you use for the toyota multiplex?
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (Russ) » | 6:00 PM 4/3/2012 |
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Hi all, I have assembled my DIYPNP and downloaded the latest extra firmware in the MS. To finish I have to connect the pins of the N76 connector to the connectors on the main board.

I listed all the connections to be made in the following spreadsheet. I'm not sure about where to connect FC on the MS and if I must use G1 or G2 for the second VR input (red row in the table). If someone can help me... thanks https://docs.google.com/spread...=html
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 11:23 AM 4/5/2012 |
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I just connected the following wire on the MS : E1, E01, E02, +B, +B1 and FPR according to this table https://docs.google.com/spread...=html The ECU power on when I turn ignition ON, but the fuel pump doesn't work. I tried to turn on the fuel pump by using the output test mode feature in TunerStudio but the fuel pump still doesn't work.At the moment FC is not connected at all so I think this is why the fuel pump doesn't turn on. According to the 4AGZE wiring diagram, it seems that if I connect FC to the fuel pump pin of the MS (and leave FPR wire disconnected) it should work. What do you think ? Or May be I must connect FC to Power Ground (GND) and leave FPR connected to the fuel pump pin of the MS ? On the following diagram (at the bottom), what is the use of the Fuel Pump Resitor ? Consider there is 12V at pin #3 of the fuel pump relay, it seems that the behavior is the following : - If FPR is connected to ground the fuel pump is in serie with the resistor and then flow less - If FPR is disconnected no resitor in serie with the fuel pump and the it flow much. Right ? 
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 4:11 PM 4/5/2012 |
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run ms fpr to fpr-1K fpr and ground fc-1F
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (knucklesson) » | 8:43 AM 4/7/2012 |
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OK thanks, will try that!
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (knucklesson) » | 5:19 PM 4/8/2012 |
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| Quote, originally posted by knucklesson » | | run ms fpr to fpr-1K fpr and ground fc-1F |
I tested that, thank you, it "works" but not the right way : the fuel pump turns ON as soon as the ignition is ON so I think this is not a good thing for the battery. Will try to connect MS fuel pump to FC and let the Toyota FPR disconnected... I wired TPS, IAT and CLT as in the spreadsheet, and this works perfect. Tomorrow I will try igniter, CAS and injectors.
Modified by nyabinghi at 7:57 AM 4/10/2012
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 7:02 AM 4/10/2012 |
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Speardsheet updated https://docs.google.com/spread...=html : - Connected FC to MS FUEL PUMP and leave FPR disconnected => works OK - Tested the CAS using G2, G- and Ne => I get a constant 200rpm on the MS while cranking, OKAll other sensors are connected but not tested yet.
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (nyabinghi) » | 12:04 AM 4/12/2012 |
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Hi I was looking over your pinout and realize that we have different pin outs I am also using an AE101 GZE with the DIYPNP mine isn't tested can help me or correct any of my mistakeshttps://docs.google.com/spread...gid=0
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| Re: Megasquirt DIYPNP and AE101 GZE (the galis) » | 4:43 AM 4/13/2012 |
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Ok I can help you, no problem. But you have to give us access to your spreadsheet : publish it and post the URL of the published spreadsheet (File -> publish on the web)
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