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so i have been driving my hatch for a while now learn to drift on a n/a 4ag and was considering many different swaps,

so finaly i decided to go with a 2rz so heres the list of what i have so far

Car:
1985 toyota corolla hatchback

Engine:
2004 tacoma 2rzfe engine

tranny:
w58 with w59 bellhousing

rear end:
tba.. possibly 7.5 diff

Ecu:
thinking on megasquirt

...WHY....???
these engines are beast when turbocharged and thats what i plan to do, also i wanted to do something a lil different than the usual f20/sr20 swap (not that im against them!!!)

pictures will be up soon



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so heres the pictures of the project so far:

2rzfe engine:





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as I alluded too in another post... the car I'm building the n/a 2RZ for will be using a Supra box, but the final drive they chose was a Dana 30 from an old Volvo. Dana 30 is "STRONG AS OX", has many different ratios available and usually are less costly. They will be adding all the mounts to fit it under the AE86.



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sounds good, i also have the supra box with the trucks bellhousing to bolt right in, i think im going with a ford 8.8 from a mustang and not have to worry about it at any hp levels

the transmission though, its a w58 which i think i will replace with a r154 once the hp/tq numbers start to go in the upper 300



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heres a little update i finaly decided to start making the motor mounts and order the megasquirt III, 5lug mustang diff is next






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just a little update i got my megasquirt in the mail today and started to solder some resistors






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small update






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another small update






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just test fitting and it looks like the motor mounts line right up


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Any issue with the sump or steering rack? Could you put up some closer pics of the engine mounts?
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well actually the original engines mounts wont work, i have to make some custom ones, and the engine sits a bit high for my taste, but im planing on cutting either the oil pan or the crossmember just a bit to sit the engine lower, as for the steering rack i dont see any clearance issues with it, the main thing is that the motor mounting point lined right up, and i just learned that their is different w58 with different shifter positions, if i had the celica supra w58 the shifter would be in the original location, i will post pictures when i start working on it this weekend,



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after trying them out the original engine brackets with the 4ag mounts almost work, a little modification and they will fit right in

pass. side


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Wow that is surprisingly very close! That can be done with some machined spacers (possibly even just washers) and hockey puck mounts!

I have been thinking about feasible future swaps and this seems to be the winner. I want something readily available in America, that us already RWD and manual trans. Toyota of course, and relatively young. Let's face it, my blue top head is 26 years old and my 7A bottom is old enough to drive.

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yea if you search paradice racing, they used to have a built drag ae86 with this engine at around 761hp and were doing 8.?? seconds, and this engine has plently of torque so i know it will be good for drifting, when turbocharged it can handle 350hp on stock internals

i test fitted this without the oilpan, it is my only issue, just like the rest of the engine swaps on a ae86 this engine is tall so i have to either modify the oil pan or the lower brace, i will post picture when i get to this part, im having trouble working on this with school keeping me buisy



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You mentioned above about modifying either the pan or subframe for clearance. Would nothing the subframe not reduce its strength? I would be apprehensive about that, given the new motor's torque and heft. Lowering the subframe seems a viable option, with simple spacer blocks and an extended steering shaft.

On the engine management side, are you using Megasquirt because you're going turbo? Or would the stock ecu be ok for a straight swap? I think the 165ish HP 3rz would be just fine as a stock reliable motor for a weekend fun car.

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the clearance it needs is very little, what i would cut on the subframe wont hurt its strenght,

as for the reason i went ms, when i bought the engine it didnt come with an ecu, and i do plan on going turbo, so it just seemed logical to get ms

im not sure but i think that the 3rz is "taller", and cant rev as good as the 2rz can, with some upgraded valve springs the 2rz should be revving to 7500k turbo'd- that and price is why i chose the 2rz over the 3rz, and the 2rz already makes tons of torque over the 4ag



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All that makes perfect sense. What specific bellhousing and transmission did you use? Tacoma box and Supra bellhousing?
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i used the bellhousing from the tacoma manual transmission (w59 i think) and bolted right up to a w58 from a supra with no issues or modifications



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Great choice! Can't wait to see it run under it's own power.



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small update, just have to finish the last parts of the megasquirt, i am considering buying the expansion card for the ms to be able to run sequential fuel injection sounds of interest to me

also i am going to try to go to a machine shop and have them redrill holes on the ford rear end to match the corollas lug pattern, has anyone ever done anything like this?



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update:

started to work on a ford 8.8 to ae86 jig

hope to finish soon..




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I like this, i aso have a 3rz powerd ae86, would like to see how you do the rear end.
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make sure you keep this jig! i might ask you to cut my ford 8.8 also!



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will do, i have 3 diff to make as of now, the way im going to make these is make all the brackets as usual, then get the lug pattern redrilled to ae86 lug pattern, then make brackets to use the gt-s disc brakes



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so here is an overdue update...





now its time to use these templates to make the real mounts, finish the 8.8, and the wiring



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Very good stuff! I look forward to seeing this thing running. I'm in the bay area, and I got my 8.8 already. Say the words and I'll flash some cash so you can help me with my swap!



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thanks, what part of the swap do you need help with



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chopping the 8.8 down and swapping the tabs over



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if only you lived closer we could get this done in a day or two,
if you know how to use a grinder and cutting wheel, cutting the brakets is very easy, the jig is a little more complicated than that



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any pics of both manifolds?
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