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kouki1986
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alright... thanks



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@ assassin10000 this question is irrelevant from this thread but I couldn't find your other one. Anyway it's about swapping a w-series tranny and soon i'll be getting one of those custom one piece drive shaft. Regarding measurement, do I have to change the size? Or i can copy the exact measurement of the stock ones?
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You need to be a little more clear on what 'size' is...

You would have to have a different (larger) yoke that slides into the W58 vs. the one for the T50. AND you would need to determine the correct length to reach from the carrier bearing to the transmission. The only way to tell is to take some measurements and/or find someone that has installed one with the same setup as you.

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The local shop knows about the yoke and it has to be larger to accomodate the w-series tranny. Actually one of the mechanics told me that they have a dime a dozen of those. What matters is now the lenght from end to end and finding an exact set up like mine would be nearly impossible here. I thought I could have the same measurement from the gts drive shaft? No?



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The rear half of your driveshaft stays the same (can be unbolted)

The front half may be different. I know mine was, but since I used an adapter plate vs. adapter bellhousing the length will be different (and I don't think I wrote it down).

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Alright thanks Andrew, I'm just gonna figure something out!



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Hi Guys,

I'm trying to track down a T50 rebuild kit to be shipped to the UK, does anyone around here have stock of them?

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Jezza

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If you need OEM new gasket seals let me know, I have stash?



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I'll be needing those, as well as the bearings and syncros :-)
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Ive been through that same situation before, I search and call every place I know who would carry the parts but no one has it. Only Toyota got the parts and for just the basic rebuild it wil easily cost you $1.2k. Good luck! Anyway, if you need my gasket and seals let me know?



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I want to ask HASportAE86 if he might know where I can get one, but I seem to have trouble trying to send him a PM. I can see an option for Instant Messaging when someone is online, but nothing in ways of leaving a message for someone
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Anyone?
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Click the IM button, be sure to allow pop-ups. The system works, but if you have a pop-up blocker it won't open the IM window.

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I searched the part number for the input-shaft bearing on a Toyota oem parts website. AND IT WAS LIKE $137.00!?!?!?!? Does that sound right?
Thanks and Awesome Wright up!
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Probably, price definately went up if that's the case.


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I looked this up on http://www.toyotapartscheap.com

90365-30020 BEARING, x 1 - Front - Input shaft bearing $131.71
90361-06047 ROLLER x 12 - Input/Output shaft roller/bearing $17.88
90363-25017 BEARING, x 1 - Rear - output shaft bearing $55.81
90369-30027 BEARING x 1 - Center - output shaft bearing $124.98
33365-14011 KEY, SYNC x 3 - 1/2 synchro hub keys $9.72
33368-20012 RING, SYN x 2 - 1/2 synchro's $62.38
33367-14010 RING, SYN x 2 - 3/4 synchro's $49.64
90365-30015 BEARING, x 1 - count shaft center bearing $94.18
90365-20004 BEARING, x 1 - front countershaft bearing $134.38
90365-20001 BEARING, x 1 - rear countershaft bearing $101.69
33394-14010 KEY, 3&4 x 3 3/4 synchro hub keys $7.53
33366-14010 KEY, 5&R x 3 5/Rev synchro hub keys $7.80
33367-14010 RING, SYN x 1 - 5th gear sychro
33363-14012 SLEEVE, T x 1 - 1-2 shift collar/synchro hub $83.95 33364-14010 SLEEVE, T x 1 - 3-4 shift collar/synchro hub $102.52
90364-37002 BEARING, x 2 - 1st & 2nd gear brgs $54.60
90364-37004 BEARING, x 2 - reverse gear brgs $127.40
90364-27003 BEARING, x 1 - 5th gear brg $51.62

Total: $1,217.79 + the parts i couldn't/didn't look up (gasket kit, 5th syncro..ect)




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OUCH!

For that price I'd do a W58 swap.


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i did and im very happy with the result



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Price for the rebuild parts is expensive. Your post inspired to me to look up the cost of a new t-50 from Toyota, it's $1,3xx.xx. Probably not available anymore though.

Junkyard t-50 or w series is the way to go.



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Rock Auto has three of the bearings you need. The front and rear counter shaft bearings and the rear output shaft bearing. They are cheaper than the Toyota price by far



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guys i have a question. my input shaft is "shaky" making the tranny noisy if the clutch is not pressed.. what part of the transmission should I replace? I already disassembled the transmission. Thans
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Depends on how bad it is. There are 12 roller bearings between the input & output shafts and a large bearing pressed onto the input shaft. These would most likely be your problem.

Unless you don't have a pilot/spigot bearing in the end of the crankshaft. Common problem when using a formerly FWD/Transverse mounted engine in a swap.

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Thanks Andrew,

Yes the engine mounted is a 20V with the 3AU tranny. I checked the output shaft and its still in good condition. I will check this large bearing tomorrow, is it the one you have to use a bearing puller? and also a roller bearing?
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This is the bearing I'm talking about, it is MISSING from all 20v crankshafts... and does NOT come in the clutch kits for a 20v flywheel either. You need to add one for your RWD setup or you will destroy your transmission. If it is missing, this could be why you have excess noise/play in the input shaft.

You might be able to get away with using a bearing puller. But I think I used a press. Here's pics of the ones I'm talking about, the input bearing and input shaft to output shaft roller bearings:


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Thanks Andrew,

I found those 12 rollers and the bearing you are talking about. I'll try to find a replacement bearing to check for the differences. Is it also possible that those 12 rollers become small over time that can lead to shaky input shaft? or the output shaft touching by the rollers are getting small? :D

fyi the engine/tranny I use in a race car. First, I replaced the noisy tranny with a replacement, and now I'm repairing it as my spare tranny. If my current tranny becomes noisy again due to the same problem, I'll check the spigot bearing you are talking about at the crankshaft. from the pic, it's rubber sealed right?

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Typically not a problem wearing on the roller portions, it isn't a heavily loaded bearing. Unlike the large front bearing, and the pilot bearing keeps it aligned.

Rubber or metal. Depending on the MFG.


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Andrew,

How did you remove the 3-4 collar? I'm having a hard time pulling it off from the output shaft. I do not know if I have to lightly hammer it off or just use a puller or some trick to it. thanks!

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The 3-4 collar/sleeve that the shift fork slides into pops right off as it's only held with 3 alignment keys/tabs and 2 springs inside the hub.

I'm guessing you mean the 'hub' is what you are actually having a problem removing. Pull the C-clip first, then to pull the 3-4 hub you will probably need a 2 or 3 jaw puller or use a hydraulic press to take it off. It only comes out towards the 'front'.


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Can anyone confirm if this is the right bearing to use for the front input shaft bearing? This was the one piece I couldn't find a couple of years ago when I rebuilt my trans.

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